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    August 26, 2008

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    David Zinger

    Tim,
    A very purposeful post that got me out of having to decide between scrambled eggs or roast chicken.
    I so much appreciate your perspective and writing on employee engagement.
    David

    Andrew Meyer

    Tim,

    interesting post. What level are you talking about? A corporate purpose or the individual purpose?

    At a corporate level, if a company or department has a clearly defined purpose, it makes it much easier for people to engage. Whether it is for the military, an investment bank or a start-up firm focusing on producing anti-aging games for the elderly, having a clear purpose definitely increases people's ability to engage. Provided you find the right type of people.

    On an individual level, maybe I've been brainwashed by "First Break All the Rules" thinking, but your manager is the most significant determinant as to whether someone's going to engage or not.

    For an individual, don't you think finding too much purpose and self-identification in a job is fraught with peril?

    It seems to me that there's a nuanced difference between being engaged and finding your purpose at work.

    Engaging in the workplace means you know what you have to do and you meet or exceed those expectations and take pride in what you do.

    Finding your sense of purpose and interlinking your identity with your job is risky and unfortunately, very common.

    In an ideal world or with certain jobs (missionaries, the military, company founders and maybe a few others), having the two interwoven maybe desirable. But in too many cases, people interweave their work a little too much with their identity and purpose. While this might produce short-term gains, in a dynamic, competitive and litigious environment, isn't it fraught with peril?

    Having someone engage at work is a good thing. Encouraging people to find their sense of purpose and identity at work is a little risky, don't you think?

    Andy
    http://alignmentinquiries.blogspot.com/

    Tim Wright

    Andy
    Thanks for making the time to offer such a thorough comment. Some of our "disagreements" may be merely semantics.

    First, an organization (mega, large, or mom&pop) that has a purpose does offer a base for engagement. However, if the purpose of the organization is not clearly and repeatedly communicated, the individuals may not so readily engage.

    I agree that the manager is the "first determinant" regarding engagement. However, the management doesn't engage the employee...or force that engagement. The manager offers the communication, opportunities, resources, and exemplifies engagement. That's the CORE discussed in numerous other postings here.

    I need to know more about what you see as risk and peril to interweaving the individual's purpose with the business purpose....before I take an opposing stand, for we might not be in disagreement.

    I just know from 30 years' experience, 400 hours of research/interviews, and work with just over 220 clients that the individual who can identify with her company's purpose, values, commitment is more likely to appreciate the work required.

    Appreciation makes the work matter. Work that matters attracts engagement.

    Tim

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